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Old Blu-ray movies?

OK, so the PS3 was ordered and will be here soon. :)

I was looking at various Blu-ray titles and it's got me thinking about some of them. For example, I saw Crimson Tide which was released in 1995--13 years ago. Great movie. How can it be in high definition? I understand the media is in HD, but the movie itself? I don't think so, but not entirely sure. I'm sensing consumers may be taken advantage of by introducing old movies in HD when the quality of the movie is nothing better than standard DVD format.

Assuming there is a difference..., what is it? Can you tell by looking at the package there is a difference? Are producers re-mastering old movies into HD format? Or is it a waste of money to get Blu-ray versions of old moviews when they can be had on DVD format?

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paterson_si
Mar. 25th, 2008 02:29 pm (UTC)
I'd say you got it right on with this "Or is it a waste of money to get Blu-ray versions of old moviews when they can be had on DVD format?"

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slayercub
Mar. 25th, 2008 02:47 pm (UTC)
Does make you wonder. I know some are remastering. But i think its so so early for them to be pushing all this stuff because not ever can afford an HD tv yet. And you dont get the quality of the products without that. What i would say is join netflix and just rent them first. That way if you like what you see then you can pick up a copy. I have an HD attatchement for my 360 and i love it. I thought the quality on both are the same but eh. Im not going to buy a PS3 until they come out with a game i just can't live without.
snowboardjoe
Mar. 25th, 2008 04:54 pm (UTC)
Ah, I forgot about Netflix (I've had an account there for years). I just now went in and enabled Blu-ray on my account and that triggered 6 movies in my queue to automatically switch to Blu-ray format.

Just wish there was some way to determine how it was remastered.
chernocub
Mar. 25th, 2008 02:53 pm (UTC)
Some of the catalog titles that I've gotten my hands on have turned out to be beautiful. A lot of it depends on how much time they put into cleaning up the original. Blade Runner is stunning, as are large parts of Stargate. At this point I'm not in a hurry to replace (most of) the movies I have on regular DVD, but some have been no-brainers for me. Dogma, and most anything else Kevin Smith is a MUST buy, in any format, at any time. :-)
slayercub
Mar. 25th, 2008 02:58 pm (UTC)
Hehe you are absolutely right. I grabbed copies of dune, elizabeth, batman begins and the 300. For some reason 300 didn't look all that wow but the others were stunning.
nrubenstein
Mar. 25th, 2008 04:17 pm (UTC)
If they remastered off the prints, the quality is more than there.

If they just upsampled the transfer they already had, well, you've already guessed how it'll look.
snowboardjoe
Mar. 25th, 2008 04:55 pm (UTC)
Right. Now if there was just some standard that explained that on the box or in the description. Sounds like they're not there yet.
nrubenstein
Mar. 25th, 2008 04:59 pm (UTC)
Ha!

Usually they'll say it if it's freshly remastered, actually. The other thing to remember is that the more cartoony a movie is (i.e. 300), the more easily it scales. So really, the less you give a shit whether or not it's HD or 720x480.

zinnian
Mar. 26th, 2008 02:10 am (UTC)
I was wondering the same thing myself. I got a few older movies on Blu-Ray for free with the special offer they were having at the time. The two oldest were Superman (as in #1 from way back in the 80's) and Chain Reaction from 1996. Both say on the back that the main feature is in 1080p and both do look great through the PS3 on the 720p TV I have.
After looking around, the original film process is actually higher then 1080P but it all depends on how the studio scans it in and the quality of the camera they use when they originally filmed it.
Netflix is great with Blu-Ray in our area. There is a delay sometimes while it becomes available, but it isn't that bad.
sibertater
Mar. 26th, 2008 02:25 am (UTC)
I don't know about remastered, but maybe they have more special features or some craziness...I don't know, but I wouldn't buy it without first justifying the cost. But I'm a cheap ass that probably won't switch to Blu-Ray until I have to...much like DVD.

When I was a manager at Blockbuster in 1996 our district manager said that we would not ever carry DVDs because the technology was not stable and most likely never would be. Do they still release moves on VHS?
spikejrt
Mar. 26th, 2008 03:26 am (UTC)
the film source
if they are mastering from a quality original film stock, the blu-ray quality should be noticeable. Original film is finer than 1080p - especially anything shot 70mm
kingfuraday
Apr. 1st, 2008 10:26 pm (UTC)
I purchased "Chicago" on Bluray and I have to say the quality was pretty grainy and a little disappointing (compared to new releases on BR)... But I bought The 5th Element and it looked excellent so I think I'll echo what has been said above and figure that it really comes down to the process of the conversion. For now I'm going to hold off updating old titles.

I mean, I don't want to go through what happened when VHS went to DVD... you had versions come out that had zero extras and a straight transfer only to be trumped by special editions with new transfers etc...
snowboardjoe
Apr. 2nd, 2008 03:18 pm (UTC)
Yep, I don't plan on replacing any old titles yet either. I am looking for some content to play (and there are a few in my Netflix queue now coming up soon) and having a hard time finding a real selection.
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